Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Citipointe Church in Phnom Penh 2012 # 14




An email from Leigh Ramsay dated 31st. July

James,

It is now Tuesday 31 July 2012 and we are now back in the office and have found once again a barrage of emails from you.

We would ask you that you would exercise patience in the midst of your personal frustrations so we can move forward amicably.

Recapping our discussions that we had with you on the Riverfront in Phnom Penh on Saturday 28 July 2012, our stand has not changed in that we are committed to the girls and we desire to safely reintegrate them home under MoSAVY’s direction and instruction.

As you said, R’s father and another gentleman offered C a sum of $10,000 for R and from this you have determined C is very protective of her daughter and resists this offer. We appreciate that C’s decision to do this means a lot to you.

You also stated you don’t believe full time reintegration is currently the best idea for the family. Your reasoning for this included the current family situation of lack of money and employment and the family have no ability to pay for the schooling of their children. We understand your frustration and concern as you had mentioned how the family are so poor - that you found them eating dog and that the other children often have red hair from a lack of nutritious food. For all of these reasons we are working diligently to ultimately have this family together in a safe environment with available food and education for all the children.

Another request you had for us was to put together a formulated and documented plan for this family and that the girls need to have unsupervised visits and sleep overs regularly. It’s disappointing you moved forward with your plan of paying three months rent in a community that has been deemed by MoSAVY as unsafe for unsupervised family visits as we had explained to you on Saturday 28 July 2012.

As we had also explained, we are submitted to, and will continue to be governed by MoSAVY’s lead and decisions going forward with this family.

You have requested a contract be drawn up between Citipointe and the family and a part of this would be for C to no longer threaten to kidnap the girls.

We acknowledge receipt of all correspondence sent over this last two weeks of which our communication will continue between MoSAVY, social workers, the family and our Khmer staff.

In order to further understand your frustrations and to assess with MoSAVY the way forward for integration we ask if you could clarify for us what you said to us during our meeting as outlined in the points above. (ie C showing her desire to be protective of R and refusing R’s father and another gentlemen’s offer of $10,000 for R; you don’t believe “full time” integration is currently the best idea for the family; also your desire to use money from your documentary to help support the family).

Best Regards

Leigh Ramsey

My response toLeigh, written the same day

Dear Leigh

To take your points one at a time.

Re patience: This has been going on for four years. C's patience has run out. She has been made so many promises by Citipointe that have not been kept. As my  first half dozen letters to you make clear, I have tried very hard to find a way of working with Citipointe to
formulate a plan for the re-integration of C's children into the family. You have had four years to present C with such a plan and you have failed to do so. Citipointe's lack of action in this respect speaks for itself.

I fail to see the relevance of C's decision, made 9 years ago, not to accept $10,000 from R's father if she would allow R to accompany her father and leave Cambodia.

It is impossible for either myself or C to have any idea what role the Ministry of Social Affairs plays in the decision to allow or not allow R and SM to return to their family since neither the Ministry nor Citipointe has provided her with any documentation at
all in relation to what is expected of her if R and SM are to be returned to her care. I have asked Citipointe for this information many times and you have simply refused to provide it to either C or myself.

As for C's family being very poor, so too are tens of thousands of Cambodian families. I am currently paying rent on the home that C and her family live in, have bought rice for the family and will be providing the family with a monthly income that exceeds that
earnt by most Cambodians. As you know, because I have told you already, this will be $100 a month. In addition to this sum, C and CH will be able to earn money from their tuk tuk and from C's selling of goods to tourists. The combined income from these two
sources will exceed that of most families in Phnom Penh.


In relation to your belief that the community in which C's family is now living is unsafe, could you please provide some documentary evidence of this. You spoke with both CH and C and both told you that the community was a safe one. You saw it for yourself. Did
you see any evidence that it was unsafe. Could you please provide me with whatever report was prepared by the Ministry of Social Affairs in relation to this community. It is, as you have seen, a fairly typical lower-middle class Phnom Penh community.

In relation to your final paragraph I am not sure what it is you want from me that I have not already addressed in my many letters. I am merely an advocate for C and in that role I have sought, as my letters attest, a way of arriving (in conjunction with Citipointe) at
a program for re-integration. Citipoint has come up with nothing but motherhood statements. In the meantime, C has no trust in Citipointe any longer. Every promise made to her by Citipointe has been broken. C has no contractual arrangement with Citipointe and
does not have any idea what the terms are of Citipointe's contractual arrangements are with the Ministry of Social Affairs. And nor do you have any intention of providing her with this information – revealing the contempt you have for C's rights as a mother.

I have attached an English language copy of a letter that I have, this afternoon, dropped off at the Ministry of Social Affairs.

C, who is just outside the internet cafe where I am writing, has reiterated her desire for you to return her daughters to her today. If you do not intend to do so could you please explain what gives you the right to ignore C's request? If your refusal to return R and
SM is because this would breach conditions laid out by the Ministry of Social Affairs, please indicate what those terms are. I have been asking this for four years.

I am copying this to the Director or the Ministry of Social Affairs, Mr Oum Sophannara. If you could please supply Mr Oum Sophannara with a phone number I believe that he wishes to speak with you.



best wishes

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