Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Citipointe Church in Phnom Penh 2008 # 5


18th. November 2008

Dear Citipointe

You have, over this past 10 days, proved adept at not answering questions – this not answering of questions raising yet more questions in the mind of an inquisitive filmmaker. Following are some really easy questions. They require only a ‘yes’ or a ‘no’ answer:

Are any of the girls residing at Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home victims of human trafficking? Yes or no?

Have any of the girls residing at Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home been sex slaves? Yes or no?

Do any of the girls residing at Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home fit the description of the girls to be found on Citipointe’s SHE website? Yes or no?

Are any of the girls residing at Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home orphans? Yes or no?

Do all of the girls residing at the Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home have parents? Yes or No?

Have all of  the impoverished parents of girls residing at the Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home signed a ‘contract’ similar to that ‘signed’ by C and V? Yes or no?

Did the illiterate parents of girls now residing at the Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home understand the wording of what they were signing? Yes or no?

Were any of the parents told (or was it implied?) that they were entering into a contract with  the human rights organization LICADHO? Yes or No?

Have the parents of other girls residing at the Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home been accorded visiting rights to their children similar to those that have been accorded to C? Yes or No?

Does Citipointe Church believe it to be appropriate to limit the visiting hours of a parent to his or child to 24 hours (of supervised visit) per annum? Yes or No?

Does Citipointe believe that the contracts it has asked parents to sign are legal – despite neither Citipointe nor SHE being a signatory to them? Yes or No?

If an independent party such as LICADHO declares that these contracts are unsatisfactory, will Citipointe draw up new contracts with the parents of the children in its care? Yes or No?

In the case of new contracts drawn up with parents of children residing in the SHE Rescue Home will Citpointe allow the parents to have somebody or some organization acting as an advocate on their behalf? Yes or No?

Leaving aside the legality or otherwise of these ‘contracts’ does Citipointe agree that it is acting in a fostering role only in the lives of these children? Yes or No?

When and if the financial fortunes of any of the parents of residing at the Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home improve, such that they are no longer in need of the fostering services being offered by Citipointe, will Citipointe return the children to their parents? Yes or No?

Has Citipointe decided not to take any genuine orphans into the SHE Rescue Home because it does not wish to be accused of ‘stealing’ children? Yes or No?

Has Citipointe concentrated exclusively on recruiting the children of poor parents so that, by acquiring either one or both parent’s thumbprints, it can claim to have entered into a legal contract with the parents? Yes or No?

None of these questions requires more than a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answer, though please feel free to expand on your ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answers if you so wish.

None of these questions requires that Citipointe divulge any information about the children or their parents – their names, their ages or any other identifying features. I can see no reason why a ‘yes’ or a ‘no’ answer to any of these questions would be a breach of confidentiality or in any way impede Citipointe in the good work it believes it is doing with these children.

To refuse to answer any of these questions, which I fear will be the case, will raise doubts in the minds of all those who are aware that the questions have been asked as to what it is that Citipointe is trying to hide.

I will leave my questioning here for the time being but please be under no illusions that I intend to stop asking questions. With each new email I will alert an ever-increasing circle of interested parties to Citipointe’s secretive operation in Cambodia.

I look forward to simple ‘yes’ and ‘no’ answers to my questions within the next 24 hours.

best wishes

James Ricketson

19th. Novemeber 2008

Dear Naly

At present LICADHO has done nothing more than express some mild concern that Citipointe has been careless in the use of LICADHO’S name. At this point LICADHO has refused to meet and speak with me. (I have requested this a few times). And LICADHO has ignored my request or invitation to go on record about the rights and responsibilities of NGOs to their Cambodian clients.  

As was the case when C was approached by Citipointe she has asked me for my advice. My main advice to her has been that she should not sign any new contract with Citipointe without my having an opportunity to view it first. I would appreciate it if you, in whatever role you may play in new contracts (the current contracts are worthless) see to it that I am recognized as C’s advocate in this matter. If you wish to have confirmation of this from C, please ask her. Indeed, there are many questions you should ask C in the next 24 hours.

cheers

James

19th. November 2008

Dear Citipointe

I did not really need to get a second legal opinion but I did anyway. It confirms the first legal opinion. The ‘contract’ with C, without a signiature from Citipointe, without terms and conditions, is not legally binding. If Citipointe wishes to continue with its policy of removing poor children from their parents (as opposed to helping the whole family or taking in genuine orphans) it will have to draw up new contracts. I trust that LICADHO will see to it that these are fair and that the parents understand the clearly expressed terms and conditions of the contract and what the parents must do to have their children returned to them.

In the case of C I will be her Advocate and will advise her whether or not I feel the contract is a fair one. It must be one which lays out clearly what Citipointe expects from C and what C can expect from Citipointe. Most importantly the new contract must make it clear that C has a right to have her children returned to her if she is in a position, in Cambodian terms, to take care of them. This brings us back to the non-existence definitions of a ‘safe environment’. Given that no-one has yet come up with a definition, perhaps Citipointe could do the international NGO community a favour by coming up with one.

Lest there be any confusion about my role as Advocate to C please speak with her – in the presence of an impartial observer. Most definitely not in the presence of the ‘social worker’ who managed to convince C that she was signing a contract with LICADHO.

Close to 24 hours have elapsed since I sent you my list of simple questions. It comes as no surprise at all that I have received no answers. The correct answers – legally, morally, in terms of SHE policy, in the eyes of God – would be all too easy to answer and take less than five minutes.

I will be surprised if I get straight answers to these questions, but then life is full of surprises!

best wishes

James Ricketson

2oth. Nov. 2008

Dear Citipointe

It is now close to two weeks since I began to ask pertinent questions relating to Citipointe’s SHE programme in Phnom Penh Cambodia. Given that Citipointe has, at this time, no legal authority to deny C access to her children and hence has effectively kidnapped her children, I will wait four more hours for a response to my questions – most particularly the questions asked two days ago which required only ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answers. If I have received no answers within four hours I will send out another email with an even larger readership than those I have sent out already. I will leave it to these recipients of my email to decide, on the basis of the facts and using their own common sense, whether my assertion that Citipointe is in the process of ‘stealing’ Cambodian children is a false allegation (and hence defamatory and actionable under Australian law) or whether the questions I have asked and which Citipointe refuses to answer raise serious doubts about the legitimacy and legality of Citipointe’s international aid programmes.

I have, below, pasted my email to Citipointe dated 18th. Nov. so that newcomers to this matter can understand the questions to which I refer.

I believe that my accumulated emails of this past two weeks make it clear that I am in favour of an amicable resolution to the problem that Citipointe has created and not to a battle which will be damaging to Citipointe Church.

I await your prompt response to my many questions.

best wishes

James Ricketson

20th.November 2008

Dear Naly

Mid week has come and gone and, in the absence of any response from you in the next ninety minutes, and answers to my questions from Citipointe (asked over the past 10 or so days), I will send out my next email. It will be one which not only raises serious doubts about Citipointe but also, by implication, doubts about the role that LICADHO is playing in this matter. Perhaps LICADHO cannot afford, in any sense of the word, to be critical of Chab Dai - a consortium of Christian NGOs which has, in writing, endorsed Citippointe's activites in Cambodia.

Leaving aside Citipointe's worthess 'contract' (which I trust you now have in your possession) it must be abundantly clear to you that Citipointe has lied to me, to C and to LICADHO about the role that LICADHO has played in all this. Unless you immediately disassociate LICADHO from Citipointe's lies it is inevitable that questions will be raised as to just how effective LICADHO is or can be when monitoring the human rights abuses of fellow NGOs in Cambodia.

I do not wish, in any way, to damage the reputation of LICADHO but also believe that the organization should be as rigorous in defending poor Cambodians from exploitation by international NGOs (even well-meaning Christians) as it is in defending them from their own government.

best wishes

James Ricketson

2nd August 2012

Citipointe has not answered any of the questions I have asked of the church this past 4 years. It does not feel that it is obliged to do so. The church has no commitment at all to the precepts of transparency and accountability.

I will leave the chronological telling of the story as it has unfolded this past three and a half years and leap straight to July 2012 in my next blog entry - with a brief 2010 detour.




18th. November 2008

Dear Citipointe

You have, over this past 10 days, proved adept at not answering questions – this not answering of questions raising yet more questions in the mind of an inquisitive filmmaker. Following are some really easy questions. They require only a ‘yes’ or a ‘no’ answer:

Are any of the girls residing at Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home victims of human trafficking? Yes or no?

Have any of the girls residing at Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home been sex slaves? Yes or no?

Do any of the girls residing at Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home fit the description of the girls to be found on Citipointe’s SHE website? Yes or no?

Are any of the girls residing at Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home orphans? Yes or no?

Do all of the girls residing at the Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home have parents? Yes or No?

Have all of  the impoverished parents of girls residing at the Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home signed a ‘contract’ similar to that ‘signed’ by Chanti and Vanna? Yes or no?

Did the illiterate parents of girls now residing at the Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home understand the wording of what they were signing? Yes or no?

Were any of the parents told (or was it implied?) that they were entering into a contract with  the human rights organization LICADHO? Yes or No?

Have the parents of other girls residing at the Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home been accorded visiting rights to their children similar to those that have been accorded to Chanti? Yes or No?

Does Citipointe Church believe it to be appropriate to limit the visiting hours of a parent to his or child to 24 hours (of supervised visit) per annum? Yes or No?

Does Citipointe believe that the contracts it has asked parents to sign are legal – despite neither Citipointe nor SHE being a signatory to them? Yes or No?

If an independent party such as LICADHO declares that these contracts are unsatisfactory, will Citipointe draw up new contracts with the parents of the children in its care? Yes or No?

In the case of new contracts drawn up with parents of children residing in the SHE Rescue Home will Citpointe allow the parents to have somebody or some organization acting as an advocate on their behalf? Yes or No?

Leaving aside the legality or otherwise of these ‘contracts’ does Citipointe agree that it is acting in a fostering role only in the lives of these children? Yes or No?

When and if the financial fortunes of any of the parents of residing at the Citipointe’s SHE Rescue Home improve, such that they are no longer in need of the fostering services being offered by Citipointe, will Citipointe return the children to their parents? Yes or No?

Has Citipointe decided not to take any genuine orphans into the SHE Rescue Home because it does not wish to be accused of ‘stealing’ children? Yes or No?

Has Citipointe concentrated exclusively on recruiting the children of poor parents so that, by acquiring either one or both parent’s thumbprints, it can claim to have entered into a legal contract with the parents? Yes or No?

None of these questions requires more than a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answer, though please feel free to expand on your ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answers if you so wish.

None of these questions requires that Citipointe divulge any information about the children or their parents – their names, their ages or any other identifying features. I can see no reason why a ‘yes’ or a ‘no’ answer to any of these questions would be a breach of confidentiality or in any way impede Citipointe in the good work it believes it is doing with these children.

To refuse to answer any of these questions, which I fear will be the case, will raise doubts in the minds of all those who are aware that the questions have been asked as to what it is that Citipointe is trying to hide.

I will leave my questioning here for the time being but please be under no illusions that I intend to stop asking questions. With each new email I will alert an ever-increasing circle of interested parties to Citipointe’s secretive operation in Cambodia.

I look forward to simple ‘yes’ and ‘no’ answers to my questions within the next 24 hours.

best wishes

James Ricketson

19th. Novemeber 2008

Dear Naly

At present LICADHO has done nothing more than express some mild concern that Citipointe has been careless in the use of LICADHO’S name. At this point LICADHO has refused to meet and speak with me. (I have requested this a few times). And LICADHO has ignored my request or invitation to go on record about the rights and responsibilities of NGOs to their Cambodian clients.  

As was the case when Chanti was approached by Citipointe she has asked me for my advice. My main advice to her has been that she should not sign any new contract with Citipointe without my having an opportunity to view it first. I would appreciate it if you, in whatever role you may play in new contracts (the current contracts are worthless) see to it that I am recognized as Chanti’s advocate in this matter. If you wish to have confirmation of this from Chanti, please ask her. Indeed, there are many questions you should ask Chanti in the next 24 hours.

cheers

James

19th. November 2008

Dear Citipointe

I did not really need to get a second legal opinion but I did anyway. It confirms the first legal opinion. The ‘contract’ with Chanti, without a signiature from Citipointe, without terms and conditions, is not legally binding. If Citipointe wishes to continue with its policy of removing poor children from their parents (as opposed to helping the whole family or taking in genuine orphans) it will have to draw up new contracts. I trust that LICADHO will see to it that these are fair and that the parents understand the clearly expressed terms and conditions of the contract and what the parents must do to have their children returned to them.

In the case of Chanti I will be her Advocate and will advise her whether or not I feel the contract is a fair one. It must be one which lays out clearly what Citipointe expects from Chanti and what Chanti can expect from Citipointe. Most importantly the new contract must make it clear that Chanti has a right to have her children returned to her if she is in a position, in Cambodian terms, to take care of them. This brings us back to the non-existence definitions of a ‘safe environment’. Given that no-one has yet come up with a definition, perhaps Citipointe could do the international NGO community a favour by coming up with one.

Lest there be any confusion about my role as Advocate to Chanti please speak with her – in the presence of an impartial observer. Most definitely not in the presence of the ‘social worker’ who managed to convince Chanti that she was signing a contract with LICADHO.

Close to 24 hours have elapsed since I sent you my list of simple questions. It comes as no surprise at all that I have received no answers. The correct answers – legally, morally, in terms of SHE policy, in the eyes of God – would be all too easy to answer and take less than five minutes.

I will be surprised if I get straight answers to these questions, but then life is full of surprises!

best wishes

James Ricketson

2oth. Nov. 2008

Dear Citipointe

It is now close to two weeks since I began to ask pertinent questions relating to Citipointe’s SHE programme in Phnom Penh Cambodia. Given that Citipointe has, at this time, no legal authority to deny Chanti access to her children and hence has effectively kidnapped her children, I will wait four more hours for a response to my questions – most particularly the questions asked two days ago which required only ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answers. If I have received no answers within four hours I will send out another email with an even larger readership than those I have sent out already. I will leave it to these recipients of my email to decide, on the basis of the facts and using their own common sense, whether my assertion that Citipointe is in the process of ‘stealing’ Cambodian children is a false allegation (and hence defamatory and actionable under Australian law) or whether the questions I have asked and which Citipointe refuses to answer raise serious doubts about the legitimacy and legality of Citipointe’s international aid programmes.

I have, below, pasted my email to Citipointe dated 18th. Nov. so that newcomers to this matter can understand the questions to which I refer.

I believe that my accumulated emails of this past two weeks make it clear that I am in favour of an amicable resolution to the problem that Citipointe has created and not to a battle which will be damaging to Citipointe Church.

I await your prompt response to my many questions.

best wishes

James Ricketson

20th.November 2008

Dear Naly

Mid week has come and gone and, in the absence of any response from you in the next ninety minutes, and answers to my questions from Citipointe (asked over the past 10or so days), I will send out my next email. It will be one which not only raises serious doubts about Citipointe but also, by implication, doubts about the role that LICADHO is playing in this matter. Perhaps LICADHO cannot afford, in any sense of the word, to be critical of Chab Dai - a consortium of Christian NGOs which has, in writing, endorsed Citippointe's activites in Cambodia.

Leaving aside Citipointe's worthess 'contract' (which I trust you now have n your possession) it must be abundantly clear to you that Citipointe has lied to me, to Chanti and to LICADHO about the role that LICADHO has played in all this. Unless you immediately disassociate LICADHO from Citipointe's lies it is inevitable that questions will be raised as to just how effective LICADHO is or can be when monitoring the human rights abuses of fellow NGOs in Cambodia.

I do not wish, in any way, to damage the reputation of LICADHO but also believe that the organization should be as rigorous in defending poor Cambodians from exploitation by international NGOs (even well-meaning Christians) as it is in defending them from their own government.

best wishes

James Ricketson
















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